Danielle:

Today, I am super fortunate to have the fabulous writer and comedy horror expert, Zanandi Botes with me, who I first got to chat with back in episode 12 and asked to come back to do this very special Halloween episode with me. Because you’ll know if you know me in real life that I am quite the little squeamish, scaredy cat when it comes to horror, even when comedy’s injected. And it’s something that I want to learn more about. So Zanandi’s with me, just in time for Halloween, to share three picks with me I’m also going to share three and we’ll also get follow-up episodes next week and the week after with two of the writers whose works I’ve Chosen. So that’s going to be fun. So let’s dive in. So let’s start with one of your picks, Zanandi.

Zanandi:

That’s exciting, so exciting!

Okay, cool. Yeah, first off, I love that you’re so brave and you’re so willing to want to learn more about the comedy horroror. And I think we’ve got such fabulous picks. I love your movies. I love that you enjoyed the stuff that I recommended. One is always so scared, especially if you’re like… I’m a big horror fan….but I also have lots of folks and friends and family members. It’s always like…So, Zanani, I want to watch some horror, but then…I don’t wanna freak you out or anything. So like getting the balance. It’s always interesting when someone, like now for this asks you, okay… recommendations because yeah, it’s such a fine line and balance between the comedy and horror. But yeah, I think we’ve got some great picks. I think nothing too scary, too bumpy in the night and such. So yeah, cool. I’ll start off with…

Oh, one that’s actually a bit different, Trick or Treat, which is an anthology comedy horror from 2007 starring fantastic actors like Anna Paquin is in there, the great Brian Cox plays a grumpy old man, as only Brian Cox can. Yeah, Trick or Treat, it follows four Halloween stories,

threaded together by Sam, our adorable little trick or treating burlap sack wearing demon child thingy. It’s such a fun movie and I think it falls under the comedy horror, but it’s very subtle. It’s not like this laugh-out-loud comedy or the super scary horror. It’s a very subtle in both and it’s so fun. And for an anthology, I think it’s also so well done.

Anthology is really difficult to do. And I think they threaded it so well, like the whole, it’s all Halloween, Halloween stuff happening in this little town of Warren Valley. We’ve got candy and scary school buses and oh my favorite horror subgenre…werewolves with a twist. So much fun. And again, it’s those little subversive tricks that they pull that always works in both comedy and horror. Like you expect something and then bam! It catches you off guard. But yeah, instead of like being scared, it’s like, woo, okay, kind of almost giddy, almost like makes you feel like a kid on Halloween getting candy.

I think it’s such a brilliant Halloween movie. So I always recommend this one for people this time of year, especially if they’re not wanna go full horror. You know?

Danielle

Yeah. It was a perfect suggestion because it was perfect Halloween vibes. And I think it really helped my brain to have the puzzle of it, with the anthology. I’ve never seen an anthology horror before. So actually I really enjoyed that that gave me a little bit of distance to be like….Oh, how’s it going to fit together? Oh, I saw that character. Oh, when are they going to… like the puzzle of it? It did make it feel like a game. And then so many other things that were really fun. Yeah.

Zanandi

Yes! Exactly. Yeah, I’m glad you enjoyed it. Because I think it’s also a very underrated movie. Like a lot of fans of the film are like, why did we never get a sequel? This is so good. Because I think yeah, it’s got its own little lore, you know, already set up within the universe, which I think is great. So yeah, that’s my first recommendation.

Danielle

Yeah, it was good. And it really did keep me guessing and I kept guessing wrong, which is always really fun. I kept guessing what was going to happen as we followed different characters and then I would guess wrong. So yeah, very, very fun.

And so I’m going to share my first one, Life After Beth.

Zanandi

I love it.

Danielle

So a film from 2014. And I actually mentioned it when we last spoke, because you were talking about werewolves and really loving werewolves, and you’re like, what do you like? And I was like, my first thing that came to mind was zombies. And I really do seem to have quite a thing for zombies when it comes to comedy horror. I do. Don’t ask me why. But in this particular one, Life After Birth, it’s written and directed by Jeff Baener, who if the internet is correct, is actually Aubrey Plaza’s husband. Aubrey Plaza stars in it, one of my absolute favourite female performers. And also Dane DeHaan is really wonderful playing opposite her as Zach. And what I really love about it is… I’m okay with shuffling zombie packs. I don’t quite like feel like they’re going to come and get me, but this isn’t that. It’s really, it starts anyway with a zombie in quite a domestic setting. So still very heightened, but also very domestic in that sense that we see it from the boyfriend who’s grieving, we see parents who are grieving, and then she comes back. And I love that concept of… what would you do if you’d lost the young love of your life and then they come back as a zombie? Or what would you do if it was your daughter and she comes back as a zombie? And just the extremes that that’s taken to? So, I’m making it sound very existential. It’s also quite fun, but as a kind of interesting way of poking away at grief and what we do when we’re desperate and how we would respond, I find it super interesting.

And for me also, I watched it when it first came out back in 2014 and the things that stuck with me are the things I enjoyed when I rewatched it for our conversation, so…I really clearly remembered a lot of the physical comedy that Aubrey Plaza is absolutely brilliant at. She’s brilliant at like disgust and frustration and she’s not like the cute ditzy one. She’s just great at really going with that. So there are scenes that I remember of him trying to woo her on the beach and play guitar and her being disgusted by it. Or her being strapped to an oven to keep people safe but then still trying to fight it and get through the door. Those sort of visual images have really stuck with me. So for me, I love the…digging into grief, but in quite an extreme and humorous way.

Zanandi (06:50.99)

I think it was a great fit. I mean, we’re gonna talk about another recommendation of yours that’s also in kind of like that vibe. And I love that. I’m always like, hats off to people that can do this. That can take something that can actually be kind of, you know, really serious and make us laugh and make us feel okay for laughing. Because that kind of makes you feel like… isn’t that the point? Like why else are we doing any of this, you know? I really love that.

And also, what I want to say about Life After Beth, and it’s like with Trick or Treat, it’s the same thing, like you know when a story is really good, when you can actually explore…It’s so cool that we see it from the boyfriend, like the angle from the boyfriend, but you could easily have done the movie from the parents’ point of view. Like John C. Riley and Molly Shannon are hysterical. I love them in this movie and I could easily have watched the same movie from there….you know, how they were coping, not coping, if you will. Um, it’s just so fun. And that is also good writing. It’s when you have strong characters and you could actually do point of view from literally any one of them. And the story would probably still be so engaging and there would still be enough to say about it.

I love it. And I’m glad you recommended it again because I haven’t watched it in a minute. So it was so fun watching it again for this. I’m really glad you recommended it. It’s a good one. It’s fantastic.

Danielle

Yeah, that’s a really good way of putting it. Great. Let’s go to the next pick.

Zanandi

Yeah, so for the next one, yeah, this one was the one that I was like, I wonder if it’s going to be too scary. But yeah, it’s so much fun. Behind the Mask, The Rise of Leslie Vernon, a 2006 American mockumentary. Yeah, it’s a black comedy slasher that looks at this guy. Nathan Baesel plays Leslie Vernon, who is becoming a slasher killer. Yeah. So this documentary group basically films him during his becoming and he talks about slasher conventions and the whole thing pokes fun at that. For instance, one of my favourite bits that I really love is when he’s talking about how he needs to be really serious about cardio because you always see the people running away but the slasher slowly walking. And that is art, that is difficult to, I love those little, joking about the stuff that we see in the movies and how we translate them into real life. And also just the documentary crew, how they get sucked into it. And it’s fabulous. I am a big fan in general of found footage like horror. I mean I grew up loving documentaries, and then I got to watch mockumentaries. And I was like, wow, this is so cool. This is a thing. I love it. And then found footage happened. And I loved that as a subgenre and horror. So, yeah, Behind the Mask is some of my favourite things combined. And I think Nathan Baesel is just amazing. He’s got such a Jim Carrey vibe for me. He looks a bit like Jim Carrey. He’s got a bit of the same energy going. Very interesting actor. And yeah, I think it’s very fun and clever but not trying to be clever, you know. It’s not like, I don’t want to say pretentious, but you know what I’m trying to say. It’s not trying to be overly clever. It kind of feels effortless the way they did it. And again, props to Nathan Beasel. He carried that. He carries that movie. It’s really something because that’s not easy to do that.

Danielle

Yeah, no, I totally agree with you. I was totally transfixed by it and I kept just sinking into it and getting drawn along with it because like you say, it’s so effortless. Whereas sometimes actually, when I watch different kinds of mockumentaries, I’m pulled out quite a lot because it’s so knowing and all the looks to the camera. And actually I find that sometimes gets almost in the way of my viewing, or like you say, it can almost be too clever, but this really did seem effortless. And I was like, how am I…like totally believing this. And also, it was quite absurd following the logic, but they do a really beautiful job of following the logic of it.

And also, I was trying to, because I was so into it, I was like, at what point did they stop…did it stop being a mockumentary and it actually…they must’ve changed. I’m not going to say anymore, but it was such a sleight of hand. Like I just kept rolling along for it, really skilful.

Zanandi (11:31.09)

Yes! I love it. Right. Exactly. And you know what? You can also watch this movie over and over. It’s highly rewatchable. Even when you know what happens because of that. Because it’s so effortless. Because it sucks you in. Because it does that every time you watch it. It really does. It’s so well done. I mean, I think honestly, since Blair Witch there’s been a lot of the found footage stuff. There’s been a lot of, you know, like movies trying to emulate that. This was the closest movie for me that came to that. Well, this does feel real, you know, it engages you so well. And yeah, it’s just it’s a fun movie. We can’t really say much more about it because there’s definitely some twists and turns and delicious little nuggets that people need to see for themselves and experience for themselves. But, yeah, it’s a great one and definitely recommend.

Danielle

100%. Yeah, definitely. And I agree with you totally about Nathan Baesel. I looked him up afterwards, because I was like… what else has he done? Because he was just so wonderful and the same for a lot of the cast. Again, we didn’t have that thing in mockumentary where sometimes people are playing at different scales and you see… almost the same kind of thing as when a really great performer comes in, but they’re doing like a little feature in a sitcom and actually their character pops more than the others. This was really well placed. So all the characters I really believed. I won’t say any more about that, but it was a really fun watch. And again, I hadn’t watched any of your picks before, so this is quite the education, thank you.

Yes, so my second one, another zombie. Promise it’s not a zombie for my third one, but second one is another zombie. And this one is Warm Bodies. I first saw it as a film, and it was like long enough ago back in, I think it was 2013, where I actually hadn’t read anything about it. I hadn’t looked at the reviews online. It was one of those where I was in the cinema, in charge of picking the film and just picked it and went in and really enjoyed it just for it being a fun concept. I knew nothing about it before I went in.

So it is zombies, but again, it’s very much relationship-based. The film itself is kind of marketed now very much as a zombie rom-com and it is the romantic relationship that’s at the centre of it.

But as I always do, if there’s a film where I think… well, that’s an interesting concept, I go and read the book. And it’s based on Isaac Marion’s book, Warm Bodies. And actually, yes there is a central relationship with main character, zombie R, and how he’s negotiating his new feelings. But it’s also set in a wider context in the book. He actually does, like very early on, have a zombie wife and adopt zombie kids. And is going through all the motions.

Zanandi

Oh wow! No way! Oh my gosh.

Danielle

Yes, it’s quite a different framing and it has a very different ending. So if you’re at all geeky like I am about adaptations, it’s really worth going back and reading the book. I love it. I found the book both darker and funnier.

Zanandi (14:44.062)

Ooh. Yes. Okay, fantastic. That’s a great recommendation then, because I was wondering, should I? Like I enjoyed the film, but yeah, I was like wondering, you know, how does it compare with the book? So I’m definitely checking out the book then.

Danielle

Yeah. So there, I think things that are similar to the book. One of the reasons that I love it and a lot of the humour that works for me is… it’s very voicey. So it’s written in first person and it is written from zombie R’s point of view. And it does have this really deadpan humour, but lots of humour and things that we don’t see in the film for all kinds of reasons that’s totally understandable for a film. They have to take a particular slant on it.

But the book very much digs into the kind of existential things of… what would it be like being a zombie, having a zombie wife, having zombie kids. So there’s a scene, for example, that’s in the book that doesn’t make it into the film. That’s one of the ones that I found both sort of the darkest and sweetest….where he has his zombie kids in the back of the car that he’s trying to drive, with his new girlfriend in the front seat and they’re like trying to bite at her shoulder and he’s like….kids, kids don’t bite on her. So it’s like, again, taking that really domestic setting and putting zombie vibes into it. And yeah, dealing with….what do you do when you’re a zombie going through the motions and don’t really have purpose. And so It’s interesting.

And Isaac Marion is one of the interviews that you’ll hear. So he’s actually going to be on next week’s show. So we’ll get to hear about his writing process and what it was like for him creating the book. So yeah, things I picked out from it that I really love is voice. And clearly, even though it’s kind of comedy horror-ish, I seem to be obsessed by the relationship aspect more than getting chased or scared. I’m like, what happens with the relationships?

Zanandi

I hear you. I love the point of view too. I really do. I love the first person. Like, it’s probably one of my favourite zombie intros ever. So, I mean, and it sounds like you’re saying the book is very much more of that. So it sounds like I would probably really like the book, because I do love that. The ending is, the beginning, the opening, the whole sequence thing until basically, you know, he meets the girl. Like, it’s so funny, like just how they live and how they do things and his voice, it’s fantastic. It’s great comedy on this very macabre type of theme and idea. Love that.

Danielle

Yeah, and I feel like the book doesn’t dodge things in the way that you have to think about for movies and viewers, particularly if you’re going to market it as a kind of zombie rom-com, whereas the book doesn’t dodge what happens if zombies are trying to have sex. What happens, you know, actually would happen with a dad. So it does follow the logic and it’s got a bit more scope to be both darker and funnier, I think.

Zanandi

Oh, I love it. Yeah, that sounds interesting. Great, great recommendation. We are having great fun here with our fantastic recommendations. Okay, so last one from my side is Death Becomes Her. I had the privilege of seeing when I was a kid for the first time. And literally since then, like I would beg my mom to rent it again for me from the video store and again and again. I’ve watched this movie so many times and still, I still do, multiple times a year. It’s actually like a comfort watch for me. I just, I also think like any theatre nerd would love this movie because I mean, Meryl Streep and Goldie Horne and the absolutely hilarious Bruce Willis. They’re all so over the top and so dramatic in this film. And I mean, it’s just it’s beautiful to watch. And yeah, it’s this macabre, dark, comedy horror satire, where the horror is mostly more body horror type.

An interesting thing also, like a little tidbit on the film I once wrote for an article for Cracked also mentions that they used groundbreaking CGI skin technology for the film. That technology went on to give us Jurassic Park.

This is a fantastic movie, and when people always go, what’s your favorite Bruce Willis movie? I’m like….Death Becomes Her. I just yeah, I think it’s so fun and funny and the acting is great. And the topic is evergreen. And yeah, it’s one that probably gets overlooked a lot. But it’s a good one. So I definitely write it up there. I would definitely recommend it for anyone who just wants to have a fun time. And the wonderful Isabella Rosalini is in it as well. And that’s all I have to say on that.

Danielle

Yeah, I mean, I hadn’t seen it and hadn’t heard of it. I don’t know how.

Zanandi

Really?

Danielle

Yeah. So it was my first watch, and I watched it with my husband. And I just couldn’t believe how long ago it was made in terms of the special effects. And I am not someone…as we know, I’m apparently relationship obsessed, just all about the people. And I don’t often, I feel like special effects budgets can be wasted on me. Other people will comment on them and I’ll be like, oh, yeah, I guess that was pretty cool. But this, I was like…oh my goodness! Like you say, the body horror and like Meryl Streep’s head spinning around backwards and Goldie Horne with a hole in the middle of her body. The special effects are outrageous for when it was made. So I was super impressed.

Zanandi

Exactly! Just wonderful.

Danielle

And the cast, I was like, how did they get all that cast together? An outrageously good cast, so fun.

And yeah, I wanted to ask you whether…how you would feel if they said that they were going to do a remake of it. Because the themes are so interesting in terms of beauty and women’s relationships to their bodies. So interesting. Or would you be like, Oh no, don’t touch it. It’s great as it is.

Zanandi

Actually, as a huge fan of the movie, I would be interested to see, many years later, I think, different generations can have different takes on it. And that’s what’s always interesting for me when it comes to remakes, is just to basically see how, you know, different generations think about the same topics. So yeah, I would be down for it. And especially because I think it will actually also just remind people that the original one is great. Watch it. So, you know, it’s like, it’ll be a win-win either way.

Danielle

Then do you know who you would cast?

Zanandi

Oh gosh, Anne Hathaway, probably… like immediately I’m thinking who can, who can absolutely carry something big like that.

Danielle

Yeah, yeah, she’ll be fabulous.

Zanandi

Who would you cast?

Danielle

I try and put Aubrey Plaza in everything. Aubrey Plaza and Jason Statham. And then I try to think more sensibly about it. But yeah, for the, for the Bruce Willis character as well….who he’s so good at this sort of bumbling clown, but not annoying.

Zanandi

Oh gosh. Oh wow, yeah, this…Exactly, Bumbling Buffoon. Who can play the wonderful bumbling buffoon doctor surgeon? But that’s kind of like a walkover. I guess you can always change his character a bit. I mean, that would be interesting. Like if you just do a like completely different take on the whole movie. I don’t know though. I can’t actually think Bruce’s character might be the difficult one for me to cast. I don’t know. What do you think?

Danielle

I’m trying to think like… Chris Pratt, Ryan Gosling?

Zanandi

Oh my gosh. Now, I’m just seeing Jason Statham now, and I’m like, because I mean, I also love him and everything. That would be so fun. I think that would be a different take completely. But I mean, he’s played the bumbling, like a guy in Spy, falling over. In his European shoes all the time. I mean, he’s got a little bit of a bumbling thing happening. I can see that. If we nerded him up a bit, glasses and you know.

Danielle

Yeah. Amazing. But it was a really, really fun watch. And again, I don’t know how I’d missed it. So you’ve pulled a gem out of the sands of time for me. Thank you.

Zanandi

Ah, I’m glad. That makes me happy.

Danielle

So yeah, so my final pick, I picked Spontaneous. Again, I watched it in 2020 – the film, but again, based on a book. So I did see the film first, and thought it was a super interesting concept. The kind of framing of it is human combustion, but obviously that is a metaphor that can stand in for so many things. And it’s based on the book by Aaron Stammer. And my interview with Aaron will go out in two weeks’ time. So we’ll get to hear about his take writing the book. And I really loved the book. I do love the film too. I think it’s interesting, and there’s a lot that crosses over.

So I think the thing that I liked most about the book, one of the things I love, several of the things I love…Again, voice, the same as Warm Bodies. I am a sucker for really strong voice. And again, it is first-person point of view. And we really get Mara’s voice written in a way that’s quite refreshing for a female teen protagonist in that it’s not super cleaned up, but she’s also, she’s just so well-rounded. And to me, it felt really truthful in terms of her response to trauma. Cause we’ve got all the kids literally blowing up in the school, but also, it doesn’t take much of a stretch to imagine what other situations that might be like.

So we get to hear her very sarcastic, deadpan responses to trauma. And also we get to see from a lot of the rest of the cast, their takes on trauma too, in a really beautiful way. And at the heart of it, there is this really sort of sweet relationship love story that’s emerging, but in a way that doesn’t feel at all sappy.

So really interesting too in that Aaron talked about Brian Duffield, who is the screenwriter and director, and he refers to the film as baby’s first comedy. So that’s probably perfect for me. And apparently Brian said that, you know, if you can deal with the first couple of minutes of it and deal with the kind of level of blood and gore that’s in the first couple of minutes, you’re going to be good for the film. And that’s also true for the books that literally starts with a bang, no pun intended. But it does in that first chapter, but also in this very voicey way. There’s something about the way that the humour is written that made me be able to still relax into it. And it’s not like the menace of things getting worse and worse and worse and worse. Things do escalate, but again, if you can cope with the first chapter, cope with the first couple of minutes in terms of what it’s dealing with, then you’re good for the film.

And there’s actually a lot of sweetness in both the film and the book in terms of seeing those relationships and a lot of humour and honesty, I think, in relation to how humans deal with trauma and in their very different ways. Those were some of the things I loved about it.

That it’s relationship based, another voicey pick, voicey on the page, voicey in terms of the literal voiceover and narration of the film, very strong points of view. And again, I think that really helps me through when I’m attached to a human and I can kind of feel for the human, but they’re not… obviously she’s in an extreme, she’s under duress in the situation of like imagining what it would be like being in that school setting. But also, I think interesting that we have very supportive parents. We see very strong best-friend friendships emerging. So I think all those kinds of things help hold my hand a little bit through the film. I’m not….we’re all being chased into the night. So there’s quite a lot of empathy and compassion in it too.

Zanandi

Yes, absolutely. The characters were just beautiful. So I never…. this was the first time that I watched Spontaneous and I immediately wanted to message you and be like, Oh my gosh, Danielle, I love this movie. But then I thought, No, I’ll keep it for our little chat. Oh, gosh. And I mean, Brian Duffield directed. And I I love his stuff. I love Underwater. I love Love and Monsters. I love No One Will Save You which just came out. It’s my favourite horror movie of the year so far.

So I’m so happy that again, you recommended this one so I could see it for the first time because…oh my gosh, like so much fun, first and foremost. Yeah, it escalates and it gets real sad and like it’s got a lot of heart and it’s got a lot of real stuff and you feel for the characters and fantastic characters. The two leads are just beautiful. And…which makes you care about them, which makes you feel all the things, it works. But I mean, I laughed. I laughed so much from the beginning, obviously lesser by the end of it, but I laughed a lot in the beginning. That first funeral of the first girl that died, and we have the shot of her dad at the car, like looking at the decals stickers, stick figures, families, and starting to scratch off one of the kids.

Danielle

Yeah.

Zanandi (34:04.866)

I had to pause to just stop laughing. That was so funny to me. It was like, you never think about, you know, those type of situations. And I like that. I like when a movie does that. It’s when it makes fun of a thing that…. should I be laughing at this? But it’s also like, well, you’ve never thought about it like that, you know? It makes you think differently about even the silliest, smallest thing. In such a serious situation where it’s a funeral and grieving and the dad just lost his kid. But like, okay, what do I do with the sticker now on my car that says I’ve got the kid? It’s so like, it’s very gallows humor, which I do enjoy because again, it allows you to laugh at the serious stuff and to think about it differently.

Danielle

Yeah.

Zanandi

But yeah, I do love the concept. And I’m also definitely going to…I’ve got a lovely Christmas list of books that hubby can buy for me this year for Christmas. And yeah, Warm Bodies and Spontaneous are both on that list now. So thank you for that.

Danielle

Yeah, amazing. So that’ll be great. And you’ll get to hear interviews with both Isaac and Aaron.  And yeah, as you say with those characters, I think it was Chris Head who said right back in episode one of Comedy Masterclass, that when you’re writing and you’re writing characters, that you really want to be writing for a star, that you want to write the kind of thing where someone would really want to bite your hand off to play it.

Zanandi

Yes!

Danielle

And that’s how I feel about the characters that Aaron’s created. And I think Katherine Langfield and Charlie Plummer, who play Mara and Dylan are just so wonderful. And again, it’s so nice. Like we talk a lot about tropes and I think tropes can be so interesting in horror and comedy. It can be so fun to play with. And then we also, in our last discussion, we talked about some of the portrayals of females that we’d like to see shaken up a little bit. And I think this is a case where Aaron has done a wonderful job of creating a really strong, interesting female protagonist who’s also super flawed in that she’s human, dealing with grief and literal horror. So wonderful job in the writing.

And it’s been such a lovely pleasure to get to speak with you today. Thank you so much for your picks. I really appreciate it. I really, really had fun watching them. And any final words from Zanandi before we wrap up today.

Zanandi

Yeah. Final thoughts. Oh, I just love comedy horror. There’s so many more great titles that we can recommend. Jennifer’s body. There’s just loads and loads. And I love that more people are talking about it because genre horror as a genre has really grown. And I love that there’s interest from people who aren’t really into horror. There are so many fantastic movies, that aren’t that scary but are really great.

It gives you fresh perspectives on different characters, on different themes, and different genres, with sub-genres within the genre. So yeah, it’s very exciting for me that people want to talk about comedy horrors. And yeah, thanks for having me on and having me share just my picks. I feel like such a fan, Giddy fan, like, ooh, I love these horrors.

Danielle

Yeah, and where should people go to find out about you and your work?

Zanandi

Oh, social media is probably still the best place. I’m still writing for Cracked and I’m doing a lot of comedy horror and other horror podcasts on movies, films and flicks that people can check out. But yeah, it’s Zanandi on Twitter. And I’m on Blue Sky. We’ll see what next app comes next for us all. If I wasn’t a writer, I wouldn’t have cared. But yeah, you know.

Danielle

Well, thank you so much for introducing me to three completely new movies. What a delight. I feel like I’ve had a proper Halloween education and listeners, I hope at least there are some of those that you might like to try and explore. You’re probably all braver than me, but I think there’s something in there for everyone. So thank you so much, Zanandi, you’re awesome.

Zanandi

Oh, thanks, Danielle. Have a happy Halloween.